What is up, everybody? Mark on the mic here at the Western Hunting Conservation Expo in Salt Lake City, Utah.

So if you hear a little rumble in the background, that's just people that are excited about hunting the outdoors and really cool products.

And I'll tell you what I'm excited about right now.

And it's this conversation with Mr. Joel Webster from the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation

Partnership, the TRCP. That's right. It's always great to be with you, Mark. Thanks for the time.

Yeah, for sure, man. It's been a minute. You were looking it up on the old interweb. We did the podcast

that if you asked me, I'd say, well, it was probably last year. It wasn't.

2012. Yeah, we're talking, we're basically five years, Joel, and I'm sure we had a great

conversation then. I'm sure some relevant stuff, so check that out. But about time for an update.

I know. I'm excited about it. So real quick, if you can,

tell me a little bit about the TRCP, what you do there. And then really what I want to get into

is what are the issues that, you know, are affecting us right now? What battles are we fighting?

Things that we need to be aware of right now, things we need to maybe be aware of, you know, coming up here down the road. Great. Well, I don't know I start with just an introduction of myself and the organization, and we can dive into those details. Joel Webster, I'm the chief conservation officer at the Theodore Roosevelt Conservation Partnership, also known as TRCP.

I've been with the outfit since 2007, which is hard to believe. I'm getting close to 20 years.

Wow. I know, right? So we're a national organization with a mission to guarantee all Americans quality places to hunt and fish. And we work on policy. So we don't move dirt. We work on

moving decision makers and agencies to make sure that decisions made in Washington, D.C. and in other

arenas that they benefit hunters and anglers focused on things like habitat and access. And we're a

partnership. And what that means is we have 64

organizational partners that we work with nationally. And we really focus on bringing those

organizations together on like-minded issues to advance the interests of our community to make

sure the decision makers are thinking about us. And so, A, they're not sticking it to us on

something with bad decisions, but B, they're not sticking it to us on something with bad decisions,

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