What is up everybody Mark on the mic here across from me my good friends Mr Ryan

Muck and her and Mr Adam Maxwell together at last again, welcome gentlemen.

Thanks for having us.

Thank you.

It seems like these days, I mean, we put dots on dots on dots on dots on dots.

We have them on our pistols.

We have them on our shotguns. We have them on our pistols we have them on our shotguns we have them on our aars

and now we're putting them as auxiliary

as auxiliary slash tandem

slash additional optics with our low power variables.

But yes, or high power variables or high powers too or whatever.

You bring up a good point, right?

I mean, it's not necessarily necessarily I say now we are it's not a new concept

Certainly it's been it's been going on for a long time. I remember I mean this is probably the original

Spark days I had a coyote set up I think I had a Viper six and a half to

20 as my primary as one would but then I had a 45 offset with an original

spark on it. So, uh, 2005 military use.

Oh, really?

Yes.

Any additional history on that and how that came about?

It involves a lot of our competitors, but yes, the Tragicon A.Cog when it was first getting

implemented into the military system. Somehow the doctor, no the J Point. It was a J Point. The J Point point. Point red dot a very primitive open emitter dot was also in

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