What is up, everybody? Mark on the mic here, Mr. Bill Krivenek to my right. And across

from us, one of the coyotes, killin' us folks I've ever had the pleasure of knowing

my life, Mr. Dustin Butler. We've got them on the podcast again. Dustin, welcome.

Thanks, guys. How are you? We're doing good. We're doing good. So the topic of today's

conversation, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see I've got a lanyard full of calls,

and it's the importance of hand calls for coyotes. Now, Dustin, I know you're one of the

most coyote, killin' us folks I know. You're also one of the most humble folks I know.

In fact, you're like, oh, you brought me out of retirement, and this and that. Even when

we talked the last time, you're like, yeah, I just don't do it as much anymore. I killed

like 40 last week. I'm like, okay, well, I think you're still doing okay. But let's talk

hand calls. I know you work them into your calling repertoire, but why should a person carry

some hand calls with them? Let's get gushed in. When I know Mark, you kind of outlined a few

bullets and things that you wanted to talk about. I guess there's really a number of reasons

we can attack in any order that you want. I think for guys to get started in the sport,

hand calls are inexpensive. It's a great way for them to get started and get bold and see if this

is something that they're passionate about. But I also feel like from my perspective,

the electronic calls have come so far now from where they started 20 plus years ago,

as far as the quality and the sound libraries and the ways that you could use them. But

there's still kind of a pure form of this sport, in my opinion. That's probably the hand calls,

the mouthbone calls. I think there's still a level of satisfaction that comes from learning

them and mastering them and tricking coyotes to come to the mouthbone calls or the hand calls.

For sure. Like you said, I mean, definitely e-callers have come a long way. I know Bill and I both

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