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The Jordan Harbinger Show

1092: Gene Simmons | KISS and Make-Up

The Jordan Harbinger Show

Jordan Harbinger

Business, Education, Science

4.812.3K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2024

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

From makeup to merchandising: Rock legend Gene Simmons reveals the business strategy behind KISS' 50-year reign as a cultural phenomenon.

What We Discuss with Gene Simmons:
  • According to Gene Simmons of KISS fame, pursuing wealth isn't just about personal gain but about creating value and jobs for others. Like a stone thrown into a pond, he sees wealth creation rippling outward to benefit society, even when the wealthy person might not be particularly altruistic.
  • Gene's metamorphosis from an impoverished immigrant child who had never seen television or tasted jam into a global rock star serves as a powerful metaphor for the American Dream's transformative potential.
  • KISS' innovative approach to band sustainability focused on building devoted fan loyalty rather than chasing hit singles, creating what Gene describes as an "album band" culture. This strategy, like planting a tree rather than picking flowers, prioritized long-term growth over immediate success.
  • Behind the makeup and theatrical persona, Gene reveals himself to be an unexpectedly scholarly figure, displaying deep knowledge of theology, history, and business. His ability to counter religious critics with biblical verses and his understanding of entertainment industry economics show how knowledge can be wielded as both shield and sword.
  • Gene demonstrates that reinvention is always possible through decisive action. As he puts it: "Don't like your looks? Change them. Don't like your name? Change it. Don't like where you live? Move." This philosophy of taking control of your circumstances, rather than being controlled by them, is something anyone can apply to their own life's journey, regardless of their starting point.
  • And much more...

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If you have a hit single and you just sing in the microphone,

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they're paying more money for a ticket than they do for the album.

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It makes fans.

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Michael Jackson, without all that dancing in the backwards and the stuff,

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not the same artist.

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Spotify app to get started. Today on the show, Gene Simmons, lead singer of Kiss, whether you're a

1:15.9

fan or not, Kiss and Gene are legends in the rock scene and have been for decades. I really didn't

1:21.1

know what to expect here. And during the interview, well, frankly, he comes across a little bit

1:25.3

standoffish sometimes, though in the end, I think this interview did go in a fun direction. A little vulgar at times, that's his personality. I guess

1:32.2

a lot of corny sex jokes you might also expect if you were like hanging out with a pervy kind of

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