you're listening to Knowing Faith, a podcast of training the church.

It's Kyle Whirley and I'm joined by my co-host,

Jim Wilkins in JT English. What's up?

Hey Kyle.

Hey Kyle.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Hey, when you think about wrestling, who or what do you think about first?

When I was a kid, my younger brothers had the WWF wrestling dolls and they

and one of them, like, you could stretch his arms out super long. I'm not sure why that was.

That's fun.

I think of two things. Thomas and I have my little little boy, five years old,

have wrestling matches every night. Right now, which is super fun.

We play a game called Wild Ball and then we have WrestleMania also.

But then I also think about in high school, I was a basketball player and I remember we would

be practicing for basketball. We would see our high school wrestling team just running forever

to try to drop away for it's rough. And I was like, why would anybody do this?

This is the silliest sport ever.

Yep. I think for me, I think I immediately think of Hulk Hogan.

That in my mind, like the red and yellow Hulk Hogan is like so universally recognized.

I think when I hear the word wrestler, I just instinctively think of Hulk Hogan in my mind.

What about the Ericsson family? Are you guys too young for the Ericsons?

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