Hello and welcome to another episode of the Ancient Warfare Magazine podcast.

Today I'm talking to Murray, Mark, Mark and Lindsay.

And we are going to discuss traders, punishment, discipline, and fun stuff like that.

It's an in-between episode. So if you have any questions, we actually didn't get that

many from the patrons, which surprised us, but I'm sure we can talk about it anyway. But we'll

start with the one we did get from Stephanie, who asks, it may sound like a bit of a dark question,

but when the sources say that someone was tortured, for example, for information,

do we know what sort of torture tactics were employed?

So let's conjure up the ancient version of the medieval dungeon.

Murray, can you...

Well, short answer is we don't get a lot of detail.

We get that they were tortured um and

that they were you know um or or more sort of uh euphemistic phrases uh but we don't get much detail

other than that we do get insights like there there was the um when cataline was on his rise to infamy, he pursued Marius Grittianus through the streets of Rome.

So he's scourging him with vine rods, which implies that it's centurions who are doing the bashing.

Then he gouges his eyes out.

Then he breaks his limbs,

and then finally sort of cuts him apart.

A, you're not going to get a lot of answers out of that, so it seems to be more ritual,

ritual punishment.

I don't think the idea was to get information there.

But, well, I imagine, I imagine that there's similar similar

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