Hello everyone, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast.

I'm your host Sean Carroll.

As long time listeners know, we like to mix it up here at Mindscape.

There's a lot of different topics we cover, but many of them are a little bit serious,

academic, high-brow kind of things, but we also like to have some fun.

Now and again, we'll talk about cooking or TV shows or whatever.

Today is one of those podcasts.

We're going to have a little bit of fun.

Now the topic you wouldn't guess is one of the weird ones because the topic is very

mind-scapy, autonomous vehicles, the future of technology and self-driving cars.

But it's not going to be about the technology itself.

We're going to talk about the human side of what this means, what this means, what it

will mean in the future, what it is meaning right now to give up our control over our

vehicles from ourselves to the artificially intelligent robots.

So our guest today is Jason Torchinski.

Jason is not a PhD at Stanford, designing new radar systems for cars.

He's a writer and illustrator, a good friend of mine that I've known for a long time.

Jason actually did the illustrations for my book from Eternity to Here.

But more than anything else, Jason is a car lover.

He's a writer for Jalopnik.com and his most recent book is called Robots Take the Wheel,

the Road to Autonomous Cars and the Lost Art of Driving.

So what we're talking about here in today's podcast is what will it be like for us human

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