109. Gary Gulman Returns: Work Friends or Friend Friends?

Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out

Mike Birbiglia's Working It Out podcast

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🗓️ 25 September 2023

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Mike and Gary Gulman have been friends for a long time, but what kind of friends? Real friends or just work friends? Gary returns to the podcast and he and Mike evaluate the true level of their friendship. Plus they discuss vulnerability in comedy, unhappiness vs. depression, and the advice that Gary got from Larry David.

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0:00.6	I feel like when you and I first met,
0:02.9	it helped me understand a certain thing
0:04.6	about depression years later,
0:07.1	which is to say, you and I met in Los Angeles,
0:09.3	out at a show, we are sensibilities matched.
0:12.5	This is probably 15 years ago.
0:14.7	And you were like, let's stay in touch.
0:16.2	And I was like, great, let's stay in touch.
0:17.4	And then I tried to get in touch with you
0:19.6	and you didn't get back to me.
0:20.6	And I was just like, oh, I guess like,
0:22.8	I mean, in my mind, I literally thought like,
0:24.4	I guess Gary's just like a real operator.
0:26.4	Like he's onto the next operation.
0:28.6	But it's an assumption.
0:30.1	I remember thinking, even if I call him back,
0:33.6	he was just trying to be nice.
0:36.0	And what have I got that a young burgeoning comedian
0:42.0	in this prime will feel like I was so insecure
0:46.5	about my place in comedy.
0:49.4	And it's completely unfounded, but it's depressive thinking.
0:59.1	That is the voice of the great Gary Goldman, Gary Goldman,
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