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Mormon Stories Podcast

1087: Lloyd Evans - How I Became an Ex-Jehovah's Witness Activist Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.55.7K Ratings

🗓️ 27 March 2019

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Concluding our interview with Lloyd Evans, we focus on his journey from devout Witness youth to outspoken ex-Witness activist and atheist. Lloyd shares the circumstances leading to his "awakening" with startling honesty and reveals how the heartbreaking loss of his mother played a profound role in keeping long-held doubts suppressed.

Lloyd is the founder and senior editor of JWsurvey.org—a website that promotes freeness of thought among Jehovah’s Witnesses. He is also author of “The Reluctant Apostate,” a book that chronicles his experiences growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness and his journey to freedom from Watchtower indoctrination. His wildly popular Youtube channel “John Cedars” hosts a range of videos aimed at dissecting the various teachings of Jehovah’s Witnesses, as well as new developments in the religion.

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So in 2009, what were the resources available to a doubting questioning Jova's witness?

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Were there podcasts, were there websites, were there reddit groups, were there email forums,

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Facebook groups, were there famous known ex-Jova's witness sort of evangelists or missionaries?

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What resources were available to you ten years ago or not? I don't remember YouTube being a massive

1:18.9

thing back then, but there was obviously crisis of conscience. There was JWFATs and there were forums

1:25.8

and so in 2010, moving into 2011, I can't remember exactly when, but I started going on forums.

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I think this was, although I think this was after I've been on JWFATs, the very first thing I did,

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to be honest, John, is I went on Wikipedia because I thought, well Wikipedia is a quote-unquote

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neutral source, so I'm not going to just be listening to apostate rantings. I just want to kind of

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get an objective viewpoint on my religions so that I can understand whether I'm crazy or not.

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And what I found on Wikipedia was fascinating and by the way, Wikipedia is something like of a

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war zone between JWs and ex-JWs who are kind of racing to edit articles according to their own

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ideas, but there was just enough on Wikipedia to make me think, no, no, I'm on the right track here,

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because there were one or two points that were made about the governing body and the faithful slave,

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and that kind of thing, which I thought, no, that's absolutely right. I am on the right track.

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And then one side- What was wrong with the governing body and the faithful slave?

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