Welcome to episode 108 of FBI Retired Case Fall Review with Jerry Williams.

I'm a retired agent writing crime fiction inspired by true crime FBI cases. Today we get to speak to

Ralph Defonso who served in the FBI for 30 years. He was initially assigned to the Salt Lake City Division and later to the

Los Angeles Division where he worked on the major case violent crime squad and handled

high-profile cases such as kidnappings, bank robberies,

celebrity stockings, fugitive investigations and extortions.

In this episode, Ralph Defonso reviews his eight-year fugitive case to apprehend John Jack Ricardo

Wounded for the double murder of Connie Navarro and her friend Susan Jory.

Connie Navarro was the mother of rock guitarist and singer-songwriter Dave Navarro who produced Morning's Sun a documentary about the

tragic event Ralph de Fonso appears in the film as an FBI certified police instructor and a former member of the FBI SWAT team,

crisis negotiator and crisis management coordinator, Ralph, who is now retired, provides training to law enforcement

and private sectors throughout the United States.

He works as a private investigator and a consultant for the National Center for Missing

and Exploited Children's Team Adam and Project Alert.

He also conducts security audits and assessments in schools and businesses.

Ralph has appeared in various TV and radio programs and has been interviewed in national

newspapers and publications offering his expertise and experience regarding ongoing high-profile criminal cases.

This was a fantastic interview, especially since I conducted it after watching

Dave Navarro's documentary Morning Sun and I recommend that you watch it also if you're interested in

learning more about the background involving this double murder. Before we get

to the interview I do want to tell you about some exciting things that have happened

over the last few days. First of all on Sunday we did have that DC podcast

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