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Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

108 - Peter Gray (Free-Range Childhood)

Tangentially Speaking with Christopher Ryan

Chris Ryan

Society & Culture, Arts

4.82.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2015

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

Peter Gray is an American psychologist who currently occupies the position of research professor of psychology at Boston College. He is the author of a widely used introductory psychology textbook, Psychology, now in its sixth edition. The book broke new ground when the first edition was published (in 1991) as the first general introductory psychology textbook that brought a Darwinian perspective to the entire field. He is also author of Free to Learn: Why Unleashing the Instinct to Play Will Make Our Children Happier, More Self-Reliant, and Better Students for Life (Basic Books, 2013), and he writes a popular blog for Psychology Today magazine entitled "Freedom to Learn."


Gray is a well-known critic of our standard educational system who is frequently invited to speak to groups of parents, educators, and researchers about children’s needs for free play, the psychological damage inflicted on children through our present methods of schooling, and the ways in which children are designed, by natural selection, to control their own education. Along with a group of other concerned citizens, he has created a website, AlternativesToSchool.com, aimed at helping families find alternative, more natural, routes to education. (From the Wikipedia profile of Peter)



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0:00.0

down.

0:12.4

everyone

0:25.8

Hey everybody, tangentially speaking Chris Ryan sitting here as the darkness descends on

0:37.4

Portland, Oregon.

0:41.7

This week's guest is Peter Gray, really interesting guy, a specialist in education, childhood

0:50.7

and like me he goes to the well of prehistory and hunter-gatherer societies to try to understand

1:00.1

how it is that human children need to be educated.

1:05.0

What is the natural way for our species to learn?

1:09.4

You know there's no creature on the planet that is more curious than a human child.

1:16.8

And yet look what we do.

1:19.1

Look where we put them.

1:20.6

We put them in an environment that is reminiscent of only one place, prisons.

1:28.0

I've been to prison and I've been to school and man you can't tell the damn difference if

1:32.6

it's just the architecture.

1:35.7

And in fact, and you know there's at least in prison you're allowed to go outside every

1:39.5

once in a while.

1:40.8

You know you can go to the library when you want to.

1:45.0

School is incredible.

1:47.1

What kind of world are those school systems?

1:50.2

Preparing kids for.

1:53.0

You can't even take a piss without asking permission, raising your hand, getting a pass.

1:59.8

I mean, are these prison camps?

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