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3-1 and welcome back to Chasing the Racing episode 108 and we're delighted to be joined by a father-son combo today with Mark and Max Smith

Halveson. How we're both doing lads? Very good. Thank you.

You're thinking of us. There you are.

I tell you what, let's go straight in.

Max is generally really nervous about this.

So if I can tell, I've got a big job of my hand to just calm down the situation.

So why are you so nervous?

Let's just tear down some walls from that. I think it's because I listened to every down the way to work and then I came back what two days ago and you said I've been speaking to Chrissy and he said about me going on to the podcast and I said we and I thought well do you mean us or like you and he was like no no like me and you and I said well they only have quite important people on there

You know people like that...

Which is why I was so close.

Anyway, anyway, well yeah, that's why I'm on there.

And I was like, yeah, but I'm coming along too, so...

Yeah, I was a bit nervous.

A man, good man, keeps on your tours.

As you know from the podcast, we try and get like sort of all angles of the sport and it's quite a, you know, quite a niche thing, like obviously with your

history and then the fact that you know you come and racing this year with Nick and

the other Macs in a very similar position and we're just chatting before the

podcast started with Croft for the no limits meeting and we're just talking about

sort of those family connections. It's funny because Dom's dad's been out today as

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