#108: Mindhunter - Whoever Fights Monsters
Real Crime Profile
Real Crime Profile / Wondery
4.2 • 10.5K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2018
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
The #RCP team analyse and discuss the penultimate episode of season 1 of the Netflix show Mindhunter.
The FBI profilers interview another prolific serial killer who doesn't want to talk. Holden goes on the proactive and goes "off-script" to rapport with him, a tactic that has lasting repercussions.
Our team debate the merits of his strategy and behaviour to gain insight and potentially useful and actionable intelligence to assist operationally. Or is Holden becoming a liability potentially putting their pioneering work at risk?
The team gets into it.
This episode is dedicated to the memory of Robert Ressler and Roy Hazelwood, two great pioneers of profiling.
“He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster . . . when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you” - Friedrich Nietzche
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. |
| 0:07.0 | You're the ones who painted this place pink? The Feds, some psychology thing. |
| 0:14.0 | You call a paper supposed to keep the animals calm. How that work? |
| 0:18.0 | Oh no. I ate it off the bars before we could find out. |
| 0:31.0 | It's free as good for spec or Whitman, but I think sequence killer was wrong for someone like Kemper. |
| 0:38.0 | It feels too cadence-ed. |
| 0:40.0 | Perhaps. It should feel like a long story. Continually updated. |
| 0:44.0 | A series of killings. |
| 0:46.0 | Serial? Serial murder? Serial killer? |
| 0:50.0 | It's better. Let's see if it sticks. |
| 0:53.0 | Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clementi, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor. |
| 0:59.0 | Writer producer on CVS is Criminal Minds. And with me today in the studio is... |
| 1:04.0 | Laura Riches, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard, Ancoe Creator, and executive producer of The Case of. |
| 1:10.0 | Yeah, I'm Lisa Zambezi, I am the casting director for Criminal Minds where Jim Clementi is my colleague. |
| 1:16.0 | So here we are. Yes, we are. And here we are at Episode 9 of Mindhunter. |
| 1:23.0 | And just so our listeners know, for sure, Mindhunter is a book that was written and published by John Douglas and Mark Olshanker. |
| 1:32.0 | And they would team up to do a whole bunch of books after that. |
| 1:36.0 | But this was the first one that they did together. And it was about the beginning of the Bearel Science Unit. |
| 1:42.0 | It talks about all the different discoveries that the profilers made when they started interviewing, convicted, and imprisoned serial killers and serial killers. |
| 1:52.0 | Right, and so those real cases, even though some of you may not have been able to watch this Netflix series, |
| 1:59.0 | but it is based on some real cases. And Jim and Laura have been talking about them. |
| 2:03.0 | So hopefully you can still follow along even though if you haven't even watched Red the Book or Watch a Series. |
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