All right, welcome everyone back to dissecting popular IT nerds today.

We don't really have a nerd on the show.

Really, I would call you like more jock of the industry, Ali Nauru, are kind of famous.

People like to talk about you every now and them.

People like to talk about all of us.

But the main reason why I wanted to have you on the show today

is because you tell,

you just tell a different story than me, man.

You run a little bit.

You support a lot of MSPs in the industry.

The MSPs, I mean, most of the people listening to this show are going to be kind of,

you know, CTO level, IT director, technology leaders working inside of a company.

You support a lot of those leaders also, but you also support a lot of MSPs.

And I wanted to have you on the show just to tell the story of the back end program that we

run over here. Really behind the scenes of dissecting popular IT nerds is a lot bigger engine.

And that's a Converged Network Services Group. And now recently merged or whatever we want to call that business transaction

with App Smart or a really kind of a larger bigger entity now.

Maybe looking to go public in the future.

But what's more important is I want people to hear from you, from someone that's been doing

this maybe four years four years five years

longer than me you've been around as long as as all of us in the industry and I want people

to hear from you what's important and how we do business from either a carrier agnostic standpoint and really what differentiates and what's

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