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The Rest Is Politics

108. Hancock’s humiliation and the end for Johnson

The Rest Is Politics

Goalhanger

News, Politics, Government

4.511.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2023

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

More than 100,000 WhatsApp messages have been leaked to the Daily Telegraph revealing private conversations between senior politicians and government officials during the height of the pandemic. But what do they tell us about the people leading our country, and how will Hancock recover from this? Rory and Alastair discuss this scandal, plus reflect on the news of Kier Starmer's new Chief of Staff appointment, the legacy of Live Aid in raising awareness of world poverty, and the new documentary about Shamima Begum and her battle for citizenship. TRIP Plus: Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes. Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up. Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @RestIsPolitics Email: restispolitics@gmail.com Producers: Dom Johnson + Nicole Maslen Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to another episode of The Resties Polities with me, Alistair Campbell.

0:11.7

And with me, Rory Stewart, and Alistair, I thought you were going to be sitting in a night

0:15.8

club in Soho, but you seem to be back at your home.

0:18.8

And back home, yeah, the Soho studio was not tempting enough, I'm doing this from home.

0:24.9

And you are in Malawi and by the sounds of it, with not very pleasant weather.

0:30.1

It's an unbelievable tropical thunderstorm, although when I checked into this hotel, I was told

0:34.8

that I'm in the very bedroom in which your friend Tony Blair stays when he comes to Malawi,

0:39.3

which makes me feel very privileged.

0:41.1

But it is an incredible tropical thunderstorm.

0:43.5

I mean, you might be able to hear it at the back of the podcast, but the heavens have opened

0:47.3

and it is just crashing down, and I hope that doesn't interfere too much with the internet.

0:51.9

Now, you wanted to start us off on a number of things, a quick thing, though, firstly,

0:55.8

which is we managed to sell out Haragay, which was exciting, very, very exciting.

1:00.3

And although apologies to people who didn't get tickets, middle of the main, many apologies.

1:04.3

Some people got on, I think, one minute after the ticket sales opened and couldn't get

1:07.7

tickets.

1:08.7

Yeah.

1:09.7

But the good news is I think that we're going to be doing some other things in other parts

1:12.8

of the country.

1:13.8

We will doubtless be doing that.

1:16.3

And I think also, the other day I was up in Scotland at Sterling University, I was doing

1:21.4

a lecture, the Andrew John Williamson Memorial lecture, which you had done before.

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