Hey everyone, this is Patrick Mason.

Last year's Restore Gathering was one of the highlights of my year, and this year's

gathering is going to be even bigger and better.

In addition to the fantastic lineup of speakers, there will be amazing art, and we promise

the music will be better than your word choir.

So come join us at Restore on October 13th and 14th at the Mountain America Expo Center

in Sandy, Utah.

For tickets, go to faithmatters.org slash restore, and see you there.

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters.

For today's episode, we spoke with our friend Brian McLaren.

To give a little background to those listeners who haven't heard from Brian before, he's

an author, speaker, activist, and publicly-allogen.

A former college English teacher and pastor, Brian is a passionate advocate for a new kind

of Christianity, just, generous, and working with people of all faiths for the common good.

He's a faculty member of the Living School and podcaster with learning how to see, which

are part of the Center for Action and Contemplation.

As we mentioned a few episodes back, we've been planning a few conversations on the Bible

as we study it this year.

For Brian, as for many Christians, his relationship with the Bible itself has been an integral part

of his faith journey, and we wanted to hear how that relationship has changed over time,

how he reads it differently than he did when he was younger, and how he sees that sometimes

people abuse the Bible, especially the Hebrew Bible, and where he continues to find beauty

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