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No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

1078: Ryder Cup Autopsy Report with Duncan Carey and Jamie Kennedy

No Laying Up - Golf Podcast

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Golf, Sports

4.87.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Our coverage of the 2025 Ryder Cup moves in the US post-mortem phase as Soly searches for answers and insights into what makes the European Ryder Cup machine so effective.  In this two-part pod we open up with Duncan Carey - one of the first analytics consultants for the European team in the 2010s - for his thoughts on what the US got wrong on the setup at Bethpage, plus the story of the role of analytics in team competitions, how pairings are formed, and his work with the International teams during the Presidents Cup.  In part two (39:00), Soly chats with Jamie Kennedy - Golf Digest director of Digital Content, and social media contributor for the European Ryder Cup team - for a behind the scenes look at what the Euros got right at Bethpage, the role of their various captains, and some guesses as to who’ll be the captains for both sides in 2027 at Adare Manor. Join us in our support of the Evans Scholars Foundation: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nolayingup.com/esf⁠⁠⁠⁠ Support our Sponsors: Rhoback The Stack If you enjoyed this episode, consider joining⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ The Nest⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: No Laying Up’s community of avid golfers. Nest members help us maintain our light commercial interruptions (3 minutes of ads per 90 minutes of content) and receive access to exclusive content, discounts in the pro shop, and an annual member gift. It’s a $90 annual membership, and you can sign up or learn more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nolayingup.com/join⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Newsletter here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://newsletter.nolayingup.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the No Laying Up Podcast channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@NoLayingUpPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Be the right club.

0:07.0

Be the right club today.

0:09.0

Yes.

0:10.0

That's better than most.

0:15.0

How about him?

0:18.0

That is better than most.

0:20.0

Better than most. Better than most.

0:26.8

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the No Laying Up podcast.

0:31.6

Sali here.

0:32.3

Got yet another Rider Cup episode for you.

0:35.3

If you love the Rider Cup, I'm excited to tell you this is not the last one we're doing.

0:39.0

If you're ready for us to move on, I apologize. We got one more coming on this topic next week as well, very different than what we've done. I think you'll like that one. I think you're going to like this one as well. We, in an attempt, you've heard all of our takes on all of this stuff. in an attempt to put a wrap on the 2025 Ryder Cup,

0:54.5

I have a two-part episode for you.

0:56.3

The first half is going to be with Duncan Carey. He is a golf course strategist. We get into some of his background. I won't give any of that away. But debriefing on the mistakes the U.S. made, you know, what he has implemented in team events in the past strategy-wise. I really, really, really enjoyed talking with Duncan.

1:11.5

You're going to learn a lot from that one.

1:12.7

I know I certainly did. Back half is going to be Jamie Kennedy. Jamie has a background with the European tour. Now works for Golf Digest. We get into his background as well, but has seen this process evolve on the European side. And we give him a chance to celebrate a little bit for Team Europe and his perspective on what happened on the grounds of Beth page over this past weekend.

1:30.9

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2:01.3

It's wrinkle resistant. Easy to pack into, you know, if you're going on a long golf trip, throwing a bunch of delta pants in there, you're going to be set comfortable to wear. The second one is a new one for us. We haven't talked much about the Roeback Fulton vest. It is awesome. It's nice. It's light. It's got insulation to keep you warm. isn's too bulky. It's got interior and exterior pockets. It's a really nice layering piece when you hit the course, despite the temperature dropping. Finally, just because it wouldn't feel right if we didn't mention the best hoodie in the game, the Roeback Hezzy hoodie, so dang soft. There's no better feeling than wearing a Roeback hoodie fresh out of the package. As we head into fall, roback.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K-com, use code N-LU at checkout for 20% off your first order through the end of this week. Pants, hoodies, vests, Roeback has you covered. Roeback.com, code N-LU. Let's get to the pod. First up, Duncan Carey. all right duncan thanks for joining uh really appreciate your time first of all uh let's get before

2:53.9

we get in the pod first up duncan carry all duncan thanks for joining uh really appreciate

2:51.7

your time first of all uh let's get before we get in the nuts and bolts of it let's uh give the

2:55.7

listeners a little bit of an idea of your background and where your expertise is coming from here

3:00.5

yeah of course yeah good to join you um so i've worked in golf most of my life as a golf pro originally

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