if the way you show up is, my dog and I are going to do this, you've shown up differently,

and your dog does too. So now you're in partner mode, and that deepens the bond.

You know, you talk about oxytocin and bonding, but it also builds confidence for them,

and they now show up as a partner, and that builds trust, and now you're both loving the adventure.

Episode 178, Krista Hauling on how to properly adventure with your dog.

Stahalling was on the Adventure Sports podcast seven years ago.

Actually, it's seven and a half years ago, almost eight years ago.

And it was when she and a friend,

they boated the Thames River 250 miles. It was pretty much a source to see adventure. And so that was

episode 313 back in 2017, if you'd like to hear it. It was really, really cool. But today she's

here to do something that I think is going to be

so valuable for so many of us. She is a veterinary surgeon, an outdoor adventure, and a founder

of dogpacking.com, and this platform blends veterinary science with real-world adventure

tips for people who want to explore the outdoors with their dogs. And dogs really,

I think, can make the best adventure buddies. But what I've learned the hard way is we have to know

how to care for the dog and their needs. I mean, when we're doing a big adventure, we're pushing

ourselves really hard. I think it's easy to forget that we could

be pushing our dog even harder than we know. So Krista is here to talk about wonderful adventure

dog stories, why adventure with dogs, but more importantly, how to do it right so that your

dog can enjoy it and continue to adventure with you for many, many years.

So, Krista, welcome to the program.

Kurt, thank you so much for having me.

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