1077: Secret Podcast: JVL Wants Every Trump Voter to Know, THIS IS YOUR FAULT!
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 1 May 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Full episodes of the Secret Podcast are available to paid members of the Bulwark on Substack, YouTube, and Apple Podcasts.
JVL and Sarah Longwell discuss the signs that voters are starting to regret their Trump vote—and why that doesn’t mean politics is getting any simpler. Gas prices are rising, a gerrymandering arms race is raging and the Supreme Court reshaped the rules. Plus: the Maine race, the rise of populist candidates like Platner, and what The Bulwark actually stands for.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, of the bulwark. |
| 0:06.0 | We are doing another early. What, what's wrong? |
| 0:08.6 | We are doing another early one. It's early. I'm sorry, my voice sounds like this. Do you know on T&L, you called me and Tim, your colleagues? I did. I, I, you, after the fact, when you said you called, because we were in the green room afterwards you said you called |
| 0:21.8 | him colleagues and I said no I didn't and went back and watched the open and I did I don't know what |
| 0:26.9 | people caught it man and they were like what I was all hopped up on what are they fighting about |
| 0:31.8 | I was all hopped up on Robitussin and Dayquil just to get through the show it affected I |
| 0:38.5 | literally I was just autopiliting through that show. I don't know if people picked up on that. We're all sick. |
| 0:45.8 | We're sorry. I'm feeling better. I'm feeling better. All right, big show today. Yeah. Got a lot to |
| 0:53.0 | talk about. |
| 0:56.8 | Let's start with gas prices. |
| 0:58.1 | Here's what I would like to do. |
| 1:08.7 | And I don't know if you know this, Sarah, but if you drive an hour and a half outside of any major city in America, you're in Mississippi. |
| 1:11.2 | Is that true? |
| 1:12.1 | It is true. |
| 1:13.6 | You can drive... That's interesting. |
| 1:14.4 | You can drive an hour and a half outside of New York City and find rural areas where people |
| 1:21.7 | are flying Confederate flags. |
| 1:24.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:24.7 | This is a real thing. |
| 1:26.2 | Sure. |
| 1:26.7 | In the union, in the heart of the union, people flying Confederate flags. Yeah. This is a real thing. Sure. In the union, in the heart of the union, people flying Confederate flags. |
| 1:31.6 | I have been thinking about just heading out to one of those localities and going to the old tractor supply and just wandering around the tractor supply and talking to people and just saying, man, how about those diesel prices? |
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