#107 There's Always Room
MCMANUS (Formerly Mind Shift) with Erwin & Aaron McManus
Erwin McManus + Aaron McManus
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 7 November 2025
⏱️ 53 minutes
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In this episode of The Mind Shift Podcast, Aaron McManus sits down with McLaren Lewis in a historic London sail loft turned wellness space to talk about McLaren’s extraordinary journey to London. Together they explore what it means to rebuild life and faith in one of the world’s most diverse cities, reflecting on the challenges of cultural adjustment, isolation, and the search for belonging. McLaren shares his experiences growing up amid political instability, navigating the struggles of immigration, and eventually finding purpose through community and faith. The conversation dives into the slow, often complicated process of building a community organization in England—balancing structure with organic growth—and the resilience required to create meaningful connection. McLaren opens up about his battle with depression and a transformative moment of helping a stranger that reignited his hope and deepened his sense of calling. Through reflections on football culture, church life, and shared humanity, Aaron and McLaren highlight how love, hope, and faith can shape a new kind of community rooted in compassion and perseverance, offering a moving reminder of what it means to be part of something larger than yourself.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to the Mindshift podcast. My name is Aaron McManus. I'm here with my great friend, |
| 0:03.6 | McLaren Lewis. We're here in London in what looks like Abbott Kinney in Venice. We're in like a, |
| 0:10.6 | I didn't even know what that is, but tell me more. No, we're like in a, it's this is like beautiful yoga |
| 0:16.2 | wellness space. So shout out totally house. Yeah, totally house. Here in totally house covered garden this used to be actually |
| 0:23.3 | like a tell me like a cell a sail loft like for ships oh really yeah that's what this like there's |
| 0:29.4 | like a trap door right in front of us exactly and so that's exactly where they would like from |
| 0:34.3 | the ground up they would have the sales and work on them and research them and everything |
| 0:38.1 | like that and now we're doing a podcast this is amazing yeah so so wonderful so shenot tolly |
| 0:43.4 | house for letting us use the space thank you amazing go google it great new brand um okay so |
| 0:51.5 | tell us a little bit about you and how you ended up in London. |
| 0:56.6 | Oh, wow. Okay. We're going. We're going all the way back. We're origin story. |
| 1:00.9 | Origin story. |
| 1:02.6 | Well, I, uh, I came here from New Zealand, uh, which is 24 hours away. It's a really long way away um basically my family my dad he he got a job here |
| 1:15.4 | but it it ended up being a place that was really hard to start again for him because before new |
| 1:21.6 | zealand we were actually in zimbabwe so you were born in zimbabwe yeah i was yes how long did you |
| 1:26.9 | live in zabwe until i was 10 was, yes. How long did you live in Zimbabwe? |
| 1:34.5 | Until I was 10 years old, I finished, I was just about to finish off primary school, like elementary for all our Abbott-Kennie people. |
| 1:37.6 | All the Americans who don't know what primary school is. |
| 1:39.8 | Yeah, exactly, yeah. |
| 1:41.6 | We're just about to finish up there and he worked he worked in |
| 1:46.7 | government with like his businesses and import and export and everything like |
| 1:51.4 | that and so there was a direction of travel that Zimbabwe was going on |
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