You have to see yourself as a father coach.

And that actually will make you come alive and be helpful to your kids.

And what I mean by that is, like, that is the vision of Abraham, right?

Abraham, like another way to put it is that Abraham came, you know, in a time machine and showed up in our culture today.

And he was looking for his counterpart, someone that he felt was most like him.

I don't think he would actually look at American dads.

I think he would look at high school Texas football coaches because they, in my opinion, look a lot more like ancient fatherhood than modern fatherhood does in the sense of what a high school Texas football coaches do.

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Welcome back to the Indus Together podcast. I have a special super fun guest today with me,

a friend from afar that we, I think we've met one time in person, but that's been it.

So, but we're friends and we have the same mentality and same everything.

I want to introduce to the podcast today, Jefferson Bethke.

Jeff, welcome.

Hey, thanks so much for having me.

This is a blast.

Hey, I'm going to jump in.

I'm going to let you do some talking here.

I want you to introduce your family to us. And so if you don't follow Jeff

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