4, 3, 2, 1,

2, 1, ladies and gentlemen, Michael Schmer, and heavens on Earth.

Yeah.

The Scientific Search for the Afterlife afterlife, immortality, and utopia. Did you find anything?

No, sorry.

Nothing?

Well, I found interesting journeys that people use to try to get there from both the religious

perspective and the scientific perspective. So I do deal with the monotheism's

versions of the afterlife in heaven, you know Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, but the core of the book is, you know, the radical life extensionists, the cryonicists, transhumanists, the extropeans, the mind uploaders, the people that take all the supplements and all the whole range there.

I find that incredibly interesting.

They call it Afterlife or atheists.

You know?

It is, right?

I mean, when you think about some of the people that are really like over the top hoping did you go to that 2045 thing in New York a few years back

There was a futurist convention with all these people that for whatever reason they have this arbitrary date of 2045.

Yes, it's been getting pushed back.

This is when the singularity comes, it's going to come.

Well, it's 2030, then 2040, now 2045.

Yeah, Kurzweil is a big, he's like the grand poo-ba.

He is.

No, and when he gets on stage, now he's not

preternaturally dynamic like a preacher,

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