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The Counsel of Trent

#1063 - Alex O'Connor vs. Catholic Answers AI Apologist

The Counsel of Trent

Catholic Answers

Religion & Spirituality

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 19 minutes

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In this episode Trent responds to Alex O'Connors "dialogue" with the Catholic Answers AI apologist Justin on the subject of the Bible and slavery. DIALOGUE: What can we kill? (with Alex O’Connor) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=799rQwh6Z9M Why Fr. Casey is Wrong about Prison https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vm-RUWHp8pg&t=264s Answering Catholics who claim "deportation is intrinsically evil" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rV1jeYOSq7A Slavery in the Bible: Atheist-Christian Dialogue (Trent Horn, Gavin Ortlund, Josh Bowen, Kipp Davis) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpnN2_c1Cq8&t=12s To support this channel: https://www.patreon.com/counseloftrent [NEW] Counsel of Trent merch: https://shop.catholic.com/apologists-alley/trent-horn-resources/ Be sure to keep up with our socials! https://www.tiktok.com/@counseloftrent https://www.twitter.com/counseloftrent https://www.instagram.com/counseloftrentpodcast

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0:00.0

Recently, atheist Alex O'Connor, aka the Cosmic Skeptic, interrogated the Catholic

0:04.4

Answers AI apologist Justin on the subject of the Bible and slavery.

0:09.2

At some point, I want to give a complete response on the subject of slavery in the Bible,

0:13.4

but right now, I'm completely exhausted.

0:16.4

As you saw in previous episodes, my wife Laura had brain surgery last week.

0:20.2

Then a few days after she left

0:21.8

the hospital, she had a seizure. And so we spent the rest of the day in the emergency room making

0:26.0

sure she was okay. The rest of the time at home, Laura's medication has kept her from sleeping,

0:31.0

and she has aphasia. She isn't able to articulate 99% of her words or she mixes them up.

0:36.7

For example, when I asked Laura what a squirrel was on our walk,

0:40.3

she confidently said, that's a banana. With speech therapy, she should be fine in a few months,

0:45.5

but in the meantime, I've basically been playing a non-stop game of charades with my wife to communicate

0:51.1

with her, so I'm a bit drained. However, I felt some kind of response should be

0:56.1

made since Alex's video was directly related to Catholic answers and Alex showed me in the

1:01.2

beginning of his episode. So I'm just going to offer a few thoughts to help everyone think through

1:05.4

the question of slavery in the Bible. I'm not going to be able to comprehensively address the issue,

1:10.6

but in the future, I'll try to sit be able to comprehensively address the issue, but in the future,

1:11.6

I'll try to sit down and develop a more complete response. And if you like to help our family

1:16.1

during this time, especially while I step back from most of my public speaking to care for Laura,

1:20.5

consider becoming a monthly supporter at trendhornpodcast.com. So in Alex's video, he gets Justin to

1:26.2

contradict himself by saying that slavery both is and is not intrinsically immoral.

1:31.3

I just wanted to point out editing this that earlier I asked Justin if slavery is intrinsically immoral and he said,

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