whose philosophy appears to give them more peace and contentment in society,

me who's quite happily getting along with life, or you who seem to be quite upset with anybody who

disagrees with you.

It's Debbie Hayton on the show today.

Debbie is a transgender British secondary school science teacher, journalist and political activist.

She's been making waves all over TV shows and the like because despite being

trans she is very much opposed to much of the trans ideology that we see today.

She believes trans women are not women and that it is impossible to change sex no matter how much one may want to.

I know those views are controversial right now and I certainly had some pushback in the recent episode with Katie Herzog who expressed a similar opinion about trans ideology. as possible, although I'm doing so obviously through the lens of a straight and very boring

man.

That's me.

I've been thinking long and hard about what I want to achieve and communicate with this

podcast, and I think that maybe it's about people over ideologies

and curiosity over judgment and doubt over certainty.

So I hope that this episode is viewed with those values at heart.

Debbie is an excellent speaker and physics teacher and apparently and she seems to really know her stuff. We go into why she

believes self-identification is so dangerous for women, children and trans people and

we go back over her sex change operation which does get pretty detailed.

So you might want to listen to that one just with your headphones in, I don't know.

And I ask a bunch of stuff that is probably very offensive, but I'm curious about that stuff and I hope you

are too. Debbie is married to a woman and they have three children together. Follow her

on Debbie Hayton on Twitter. If you enjoy this, please tell a few friends,

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