The media oftentimes wants to portray a really white, really wealthy, really well educated, white gay man.

But that's not really the reality of most LGBT people's lives.

Hey, welcome to In The Thick. This is a podcast about politics, race and culture from a POC perspective.

I'm Maria Inohosa. And I'm Julio Riccalo Barilla.

Joining us in our very tiny Harlem studios is Shelby Chestnut, national

organizing and policy strategist with the Transgender Law Center. Hey Shelby

welcome to the show. Hi so glad to be here.

And also joining us in Harlem is Veronica Bajetti Flores.

She's a freelance writer, she's an immigrant, which means she's got 12 jobs, including co-host

of Radio Menea.

Welcome back, Veronica.

Thanks for having that come.

So today we're going to be talking about what's happening in the LGBTQ community

and in the rights movement.

And so we're going to start the show a little different, but

understanding that this is actually something we should all get used to doing,

which is saying what our preferred pronouns are. So my preferred pronouns are she and her and

cabrona sometimes.

Julio, what about you?

He and him.

Okay, Shelby. I prefer gender neutral pronouns or anything respectful. So what would be a gender neutral? You can say like they them or just my name. Okay.

Cool. Béronica? I use she her. Cool.

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