Dr. William Lane Craig, welcome to the Council of Trent podcast.

Good to be with you, Trent.

I am just, I'm just really jazzed to be here sitting down with you.

I'm not even sure how to start.

I'm just like, I don't know, I'm just kind of a little bit starstruck,

or people would say fan-boying, if you will,

because I followed your work for such a long time. And it was just really

instrumental in my own conversion to Christ. And in becoming an apologist, being a debater. So,

yeah, I just want a few different things to chat about. One, I want to talk about, there's a little bit of

similarity, kind of in our spiritual and vocational journey. So on my end for you to know,

my religious journey began. I was raised in kind of a non-religious household. I didn't go to church.

My parents would read Bible stories to me, but when I was in junior high, I asked, you know, how do I know these Bible stories are true?

Right. Was this a nominally Catholic home? This is interesting. So my mother was Catholic,

but left the Catholic Church, and she became kind of a nominal Protestant.

And my dad is Jewish, but he didn't go to temple.

So we didn't go, I was raised, it's kind of nothing, just some Bible stories here and there.

Eventually, I became a deist in high school.

Like, I believe there was a God out there who kind of started everything.

But I thought religion was, you know, just for,

I loved science. Like I was in the young astronomers club. I thought that religion was for

unintelligent people. Then when I was in high school, I met some Catholic friends, and they took me to

a youth group, introduced me to the faith, and I thought, okay, well, how do I know

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