1054: Secret Podcast: Divorced Guy Energy Is Ruining America
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 7 February 2026
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
Donald Trump posts an overtly racist video, Republicans briefly squirm, and the usual defenses start to crack. JVL and Sarah Longwell explain why this moment exposed GOP cowardice, how Trump’s vanity and distractions are starting to cost him politically, and what billionaire media self-destruction says about power, accountability, and the institutions being hollowed out.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark. Sarah, |
| 0:07.8 | how are you? |
| 0:11.1 | I, guys, I hope everyone's ready for just 45 minutes of ball discourse. |
| 0:15.5 | Do you want to talk about it now, or do you want to save it for the back of the show? |
| 0:20.2 | Let's do it while you have that look |
| 0:22.4 | of the cat that just ate the canary on your face. We should make people wait. Is it a Deadpool |
| 0:27.5 | pinball machine? Sure as shit is. We will we will make people wait. We're going to have a lot of |
| 0:34.1 | pinball discourse, a lot of feelings, a lot of life stuff, |
| 0:39.8 | and a new chapter in our friendship, which is coming soon. |
| 0:46.3 | Yeah, we're not going to talk about that right now. |
| 0:48.5 | Okay. So I have been in a hole for the last 48 hours working on another project. |
| 0:54.7 | People may have noticed no triads for the last two days. |
| 0:57.6 | That's okay. |
| 0:58.4 | Sometimes that's going to happen. |
| 0:59.6 | I have other things to do. |
| 1:01.5 | And I will just say that he's doing something for me that I greatly appreciate. |
| 1:06.7 | And for those of you who wonder about our relationship in real life, what you see on this show. |
| 1:12.5 | Actually, I forgot we weren't taping before when we were talking. |
| 1:16.6 | It is just like you see. |
| 1:18.1 | And he is doing something for me that I really appreciate. |
| 1:20.8 | I texted you yesterday. |
| 1:23.8 | Something. |
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