1054: Renee DiResta | The Puppet Masters of Public Opinion
The Jordan Harbinger Show
Jordan Harbinger
4.8 • 12.3K Ratings
🗓️ 24 September 2024
⏱️ 106 minutes
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Summary
Invisible Rulers author Renee DiResta explains how disinformation has reshaped online discourse with real-world consequences — and who benefits from it!
What We Discuss with Renee DiResta:- The phenomenon of "audience capture" — influencers and content creators becoming more extreme in their views to cater to their audience's expectations and maintain engagement.
- The concept of "flooding the zone" with multiple explanations or theories to create confusion and make it difficult to determine the truth, often used in disinformation campaigns.
- The "Liar's dividend" — the ability to deny real events or information by claiming they are fake or manipulated, enabled by the existence of advanced manipulation technologies.
- The challenges of maintaining a shared reality in the age of social media, where people can easily find confirmation for their existing beliefs and form echo chambers.
- To combat misinformation and propaganda, we can develop media literacy skills by being aware of our emotional responses to content, taking time to verify information from multiple sources, and learning to recognize common propaganda techniques. By cultivating these skills, we can become more discerning consumers of information and contribute to a healthier online discourse.
- And much more...
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| 1:15.6 | Today on the show, my friend Renee DeResta, |
| 1:17.7 | an expert on disinformation and influence operations, |
| 1:20.7 | especially in the digital realm, |
| 1:22.3 | today we're discussing the phenomenon of audience capture. |
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