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Do you get a lot of heat online from all these it's all the flat earth people and the chem trail people those are the people that are mad at you the most

yeah that's my specialty chem trails and flat earth yeah well, well that's, I asked people, which is, this is hilarious, I asked people online, I said

Mick West from Metabunk is going to be here, what would you like me to debunk? And one of the first ones was

chem trails because you cannot debunk it. It's real. Dun, done, I would say this to

anybody who thinks that. that has got to be the most

ineffective government program of all time like you ask people what they're doing

by spraying things in the sky and the number one thing they'll say is like weather control weather controls one well they don't have any fucking control the weather because if they did they make it rain all over Santa Barbara and stop these

fires yeah I mean there's hundreds of millions of dollars worth of damage going on

right now there's a fire that's bigger than the city of Washington DC they think

they're making those fires they think that

that's part of the conspiracy anything that happens is always part of the

conspiracy what do you think it is like what is what is it with conspiracies like why are they so attractive to people there's

something going on with people right yeah I think I've been looking to

there's a and you have especially since your government

shell well I'm doing research with a book I'm writing it's called escaping the rabbit

hole and it's about how people get into the rabbit hole and how people get out of the

rabbit hole. So the whole thing is about the rabbit hole which is something basically people

get sucked into and I think people do a lot of research into the reasons behind people getting into

conspiracy theories like the psychological reasons and the personality reasons

and things like that but I think most conspiracy theorists are just regular people. They're just ordinary people who get sucked into something.

And why do you think that is? Just from talking to them, they tell me like their origin stories, essentially, and they tell me what happened to them when they got into conspiracy theories.

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