Welcome in to episode 105 of the House of L podcast. I'm Lawrence Holmes. Thanks so much for checking out the podcast this week.

It has been, uh, it's crazy like this month has been one of the most downloaded months that I've had in a long time and there

a big thanks goes to both Lance Briggs who was last week's episode and my buddy Rick Camp who was nice enough to do some bull stuff for House of El, for which I paid him.

And now he's launched his own podcast called Basketball Camp.

And I thank him because he brought a whole bunch of ears to House of El and I hope that you stick around and you stay and it was very, very valuable, which is why I wrote the man a check.

See, Campi, you can do it on your own if you want baby you can.

I'm also excited because I've been sitting on a spice Adams episode for about a month

and I think next week we will put it out for the public for people but this week this week was tremendous.

I have a ton of affection for Peggy Kaczynski.

I think she is a real badass.

When it comes to doing sports in Chicago.

She's a legend.

She bristles at that and she explains to me why

I might think that she's a trailblazer, but she's not as much of a trailblazer as I think.

But I think a lot of people have that same sentiment, and I'm glad that Peggy does a good job of kind of setting the record straight on that

You'll hear once you get inside of the the episode

What I love about this episode is I think you get a real sense of how fun Peggy is

She's a serious journalist make no mistake and we talk a lot about what's right and what's wrong

inside of journalism and sports journalism in particular. But I think one of the things that

comes across and came across on camera for her it clearly comes

across on radio with her work on the Kevin Matthews show her work on on AM 1000

her work nationally like that stuff comes across. But on television, when you only have,

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