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Paul McKenna's positivity podcast.

Hello, this is Paul McKenna, and welcome to the positivity podcast.

My objective is to interview the most interesting people in the world,

and in the next 30 minutes, get insights and even discover how it is that they do what they do,

what makes them unique and fascinating, their success

mindset, and certainly what keeps them positive.

My guest today is a best-selling author having sold over a million books in the UK. Before

becoming a full-time writer, she was a multi-award-winning television producer behind such

shows as This Life, Teachers and 20 Things to Do Before You're 30, as well as producing on EastEnders.

Her new book is entitled Just Got Real. I'm talking today with Jane Fallon.

In terms of coming up with a story, I kind of usually start with the central relationship that I want to write about.

So whether that's friends or siblings or a couple or colleagues,

I've always got some kind of idea of the dynamic I want between the central two people.

That's usually the first thing.

And I always work very early in the mornings.

I find I get up really early and I find that those hours between about kind of 530 and 8.30

are the best time for me when no one's getting in touch with you,

no one's bothering you. It's really important to me to have a good career. And my parents

have drummed it into me that you never get anything for nothing and you know, you have to work

half you're doing all that kind of stuff. So I knew I wanted to big career. So at that point,

I had a plan. I was going to work my way into TV. As I say, I always knew that I wanted to make something out in my careers, but I wasn't in a rush.

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