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The Talk Show With John Gruber

105: ‘George Lucas Called’ With Guest Jason Snell

The Talk Show With John Gruber

John Gruber

Technology

3.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 December 2014

⏱️ 137 minutes

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Summary

Special guest Jason Snell joins the show for a year-end extravaganza. Topics include Jason’s first three months writing (and podcasting) as an indie at his new Six Colors; a look back at his 20-year career at MacUser and soon thereafter Macworld; tricky edge cases when booking sponsorships, and the whole situation with separating advertising sales from editorial integrity when you’re running a one-person publication; the Sony/North Korea hacking and *The Interview*, and iTunes’s slightly belated release thereof; and we pour one out for good old Movable Type.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello from beautiful Southern California.

0:04.8

Hello from very cold dark.

0:07.6

Fill it off. Yeah. Oh, I expect nothing less from Philly. No, you're still in Southern

0:12.0

Cal. Yeah, well, so I was in Arizona. So we like came through LA. We go out to my mom's place

0:17.8

in Arizona and then we come back through because it's such a long drive. You can't really drive

0:20.8

direct from San Francisco to Phoenix because the mountains are in the way. So it's about halfway

0:25.1

to my in-laws. So we spent a day here coming down and a couple days going back. So it's a

0:30.7

a toofre. All the grandparents are visible and that's a pretty good trip. A lot of driving though.

0:35.7

I'll come back to that because there's something we wrote about recently. I want to touch on

0:39.9

with the road trip. But a big picture. Last time you were on this show. Oh, yeah. You were still the

0:47.3

editorial director for Macworld. For like 48 hours, yeah. Yeah, it was the night before the Apple

0:54.6

event. It was like September 8th, I think. Was it was that it or was it the 7th? I mean, we might

1:00.1

have recorded the 7th and published the 8th. Yeah, I think that's I think I remember sending a note

1:04.2

to Dave Whisk as saying like, is that going to go up before the Apple event? Because nobody's going

1:08.8

to want to listen to it afterward. But yeah, it was we were right on the cusp of the Apple event.

1:13.6

And then the Macworld layoffs and everything happened the next day. Yeah, that was that was

1:20.5

pretty funny because I was like, I could talk to John about it. And then I was like, no, I can't talk to

1:25.2

John about it because it's so so what big new things are going to happen this week? Yeah, I'm frightened.

1:32.7

Well, there's going to be a new year because the earth goes around the sun and nothing we can do

1:37.0

can stop that. So it's going to be 2015. So there's something. And beyond that, let's hope nothing.

1:44.4

I could I could use a little less fewer interesting events post talk show. So it fascinates me though.

1:53.3

It really does because in the grand scheme of things September is not that long ago. It's three months.

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