Hello, everyone.

This is JVL. Here's my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark. Look, I'm wearing my bulwark vest today. Oh, that looks great. Oh, man, I should have put on my, I wear bulwark merch all the time. It is like a problem. But it's like that sign or what's that thing in PCU or it's like you're not supposed to wear the band. You're not supposed to wear your own merch. Yeah.

Yeah.

I, uh, or what's that thing in PCU where it's like you're not supposed to wear the band?

You're not supposed to wear your own merch.

Yeah.

Sorry.

The big lesson I have in this is, well, you probably remember this.

So the, from the Athens rock set,

so the indie rock set coming out of Athens, Georgia,

when like I was in high school and you were middle school.

Sassani DeFranco?

It's close.

It's Indigo Girls.

So R.M.

broke big first.

And they would wear, often Michael Stipe would wear like an Indigo Girls t-shirt when he was on stage.

Love that.

And nobody knew the Indigo Girls.

And then Indigo Girls would sometimes, after they broke big, they would wear a Huskerdu,

which is another local indie band who never actually broke them.

But they wear Husker do merch.

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