1043: Trump's DOJ Utterly Bungled the Latest Epstein Release

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.8 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

New Epstein files have dropped, and the fallout is growing. Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and JVL discuss what’s new in the latest release, why the DOJ’s clumsy redactions and selective disclosures made things worse, and how the accumulating evidence and hypocrisy are starting to break through to voters. They also talk about Trump’s distraction tactics, JD Vance’s political viability, and why the old Trump bargain isn’t holding anymore.

NOTE: The Justice Department in a tweet later on Tuesday, after the episode was taped, said that the alleged letter from Jeffrey Epstein to Larry Nassar was determined by the FBI to be fake.

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0:00.0	Take what's in these documents and then think to yourself, there's a bunch of stuff they're keeping back.
0:06.1	Like, this isn't even the bad stuff.
0:07.7	This is the stuff they think they can get around.
0:11.9	Hello, everyone.
0:13.1	This is JVL here with my best friends, Sarah Longwell and Tim Miller of the bulwark.
0:18.6	Happy Christmas, my friends.
0:20.3	This is our go-home show for the year.
0:23.8	Not really.
0:25.2	We do have one more next week.
0:26.7	Well, one more.
0:27.6	One more.
0:28.3	But this is for Christmas.
0:30.6	Go home for Christmas, as we say in WrestleMania.
0:32.9	Really, we've already had a Christmas miracle.
0:36.0	Tens of thousands of pages of pedophilia documents.
0:40.3	Yay.
0:41.2	Some bad news for Tiny Tim.
0:43.6	A lot in the initial tranche, a lot of Bill Clinton stuff.
0:47.2	A lot of Bill Clinton mentions.
0:49.0	A lot of Bill Clinton photos.
0:51.0	I have so many questions about the Bill Clinton photos.
0:53.3	Can you update us on the state of
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