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All I want to be is a joke

All I want to be is a joke all I'm going to be is a joke Okay. Greetings, friends. It's Monday, June 8th, and we've got some chop for you you. On today's episode, we will be talking about buildings. And in fact, one specific building in particular that's new to the community of buildings in America. That's right. We're discussing about soon to be open to the public on Chicago's south side,

the Obama Presidential Library.

And joining us to discuss this wonderful new building

is the architecture critic for the nation and the author of the blog,

McMansion Hell. You might know her as Mick Mansion Hell, but she also goes by

Kate Wagner. Kate, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. Happy to be here.

Kate, we wanted to have you on because, yes, the Obama Presidential Library is opening in

south, in the south side of Chicago, but a few weeks. You have been lucky enough to have been

granted access inside behind the veil

of this sacred building and institution. And I would just like to begin with, like,

your perspective as someone who studies architecture, who is very familiar with it, I'm just

going to say right off the bat that even by the standards of presidential libraries, the Obama building is one of the

most evil-looking structures I think I've ever seen. Yeah, it's definitely. For a long time,

that record was held by Lyndon B. Johnson's presidential library, which is like a brutalisk.

I don't even know how to describe it. It is just like a hulking kind of windowless, strange library.

I was going to compare the Obama Library to the Lyndon B. Johnson Presidential Library

at the University of Texas because it's the only presidential library I've been to.

And speaking for myself, I thought I kind of liked the building.

And I think it's actually like a really excellent museum as well.

Yeah, I think that's a great a really excellent museum as well. Yeah,

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