Welcome back to the Diet Dr. Dr. Brett Scher. Today I'm joined by Marty Kendall.

Now, you may know Marty from optimizing nutrition.com or from Twitter at Marty Kendall, too.

Marty's another one of these individuals who came from an engineering background and sort of is

taking over the world of nutrition. And for him, it was a personal start.

You know, his wife was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes and more recently his son. But what started

with him with his wife was really trying to take his engineering background and his engineering

way of thinking and saying, okay, how can we optimize nutrition for my wife who has type 1 diabetes?

And that just took them down this whole road of nutrition in general and the different

sort of beliefs and concepts of nutrition and for him to try and find, again, with his

sort of engineering thinking, the way to optimize it for the masses.

And he has done a great job mining observational data that exists,

whether it's my fitness pal, which you'll hear us talk about,

or from his own website and the thousands of people that have come through his website.

And he's using that data to try and help him come up with what he believes

is the optimal nutrition strategy.

So first and foremost, like, you know, his data is not peer reviewed, published,

randomized control trials.

And we talk about that.

So we have to be clear about the level of data.

But it's something, right?

So for someone who wants to help others and use his experience to do that, that's what he's trying to do.

And his focus is on nutrient density, so high nutrient density, which tends to be higher

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