Welcome, this is an awesome podcast to the Jeff, there's a lot of whiskey Jeff, Makalino,

Jeff Makalino, Makalino, Makalino, podcast, hey, hey, now, welcome, I kind of spent

a special one today. I'm nursing, excuse me, I'm nursing source rope that has been bothering

me for four days now. And I have an audition for a small part in a movie tomorrow. So cross

your fingers for your boy getting his vocals back. So I'll be real quick. Calvin Smith

returns to the podcast. He was on episode 35. I think I tell him during the podcast,

but I don't remember because so we we talked so much before and after the podcast. But

I feel like that episode was like the first one that gave me a lot of pop where people

started reaching out to talk about things I talked about on that first podcast with him.

So obviously, and we've stayed in touch, but I obviously said, hey, I finally need to

ask you to come back on. We talk about a lot of different things. He's the host of Unquestionable

with Calvin Smith. I love talking to Calvin because he questions me and really what he

makes me think. And I think some of what is revealed is just a kind of a I think maybe

a philosophical difference as far as beliefs. I don't know if that makes sense. I certainly

understand and can't argue with what Calvin says. I don't believe it, but the reason I yeah,

I mean, I guess the interview will speak for itself with a better voice me will speak to Calvin.

And I don't know if if what I said made any sense, but I'm not rerecording it. So we're

sticking with it. Calvin's a great dude to talk to again. I have a great time talking with him

about again, we talk about, I know one of our big differences is belief in an afterlife. And

he, I enjoy his perspective on why he's comforted by not thinking there's an afterlife as opposed to

my perspective of that would be very disheartening. But again, I like that we're able to discuss this

obviously in a very civil way. And again, I don't I certainly don't think anything he says is

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