Hey, everybody. This is Ellen Weatherford.

I'm here again with just the zoo of us.

This is your favorite animal review podcast.

And today I have a new friend.

This is Dr. Jen Tinsman.

Say hi, Jen.

Hi, everybody.

I'm so excited.

So I have been introduced to you through the lemur Conservation Network.

And you're here to talk about a really cool lemur. But before we talk about our cool lemur, why don't you introduce yourself

a little bit and let us know what kind of work you do and how you got into it. Yeah. As Ellen said,

my name is Jen and I am a conservation biologist. I'm currently based at UCLA in Los Angeles, but I did my PhD

on the blue-eyed black lemur in Madagascar. And so that's what I'm really excited to talk about

today. So you were like in Madagascar working with and studying these lemurs. What was that like?

What was that experience like for you? Yeah. So I've actually been doing field work in Madagascar since 2010. I haven't been recently

because it's been tough to go with the pandemic. But my last field season on the blue-eyed black

lemurs was completely different from the other places I've been. Madagascar is a really

biodiverse and geographically diverse place.

So there's a desert in the south, and then there's rainforest in the east and the north.

And then there's this super weird, dry, deciduous tropical forest in the northwest.

And that's where the blue-eyed black lemurs live.

And so my last field season there, we kind of moved from rainforest out to this deciduous dry forest. And so we got to see,

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