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The Next Level

1037: The Most Dangerous Part of Trump's Second Term | The Secret Podcast

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 November 2025

⏱️ ? minutes

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Summary

Note: Sarah and JVL recorded this episode on Wednesday, November 26.

JVL and Sarah Longwell break down why pardoning January 6 felons might be the most dangerous move of his presidency yet. By promising protection to anyone who commits crimes on his behalf, Trump is building a loyalty pipeline straight out of a mob movie… and the Supreme Court is giving him the cover he needs.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey, T&L fan. It's JVL and Sarah. Sarah say hi.

0:03.4

Hey, guys. What's up? Happy Thanksgiving.

0:06.6

We, uh,

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