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Mormon Stories Podcast

1032: Dr. Gina Colvin's Pre-Excommunication Interview Pt. 4

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Gina Colvin, host of A Thoughtful Faith Podcast, is set to be excommunicated by the Mormon Church for apostasy on 12/20/2018 in her New Zealand ward by her bishop. The accusations against Gina include the following:

(a) Being baptized into the Anglican faith.
(b) Her continued profession of membership in the Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints;
(c) Active criticism of the Church and its leaders in public forums; and
(d) Public advocacy for positions which are contrary to core doctrines of the Church.

This is Gina’s pre-excommunication interview.

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Well, what about the idea that, you know, write a letter to Elder Oaks, write a letter to

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the first presidency, write a letter, talk to your bishop, talk to your state president,

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but if you're crossing the line when you, as Elder Holland once told me, when you purchase

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a printing press, when you blog and podcast, you're sullying the good name of the church,

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you're betraying the leadership, that's something to be handled privately behind the scenes,

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not publicly in a way that embarrasses and disgraces the name of the church.

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And my response would be to say what you are encouraging me to do is be complicit

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with spiritually abusive practices.

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No, just just just voice your concerns privately. That's all you don't have to be complicit.

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Oh, John, I've got a vagina. What excess do I have?

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To these men and their plush offices in Salt Lake City.

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Hey, I'm brown. I'm a woman. You know, I'm in New Zealander.

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You know, they've got no interest. They've got no interest in the margins.

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Okay. So why, if you know they're not going to listen, then why speak out?

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