Welcome to get scared, our fun little spooky treehouse pal around where each week we talk about something spooky, something scary, or sometimes nothing like that at all.

And if that sounds good to you, dear listener, then it's time to get scared. One of the best. One of the best I've ever done. If you ask me, I'm Shane Midey. I'm Brian Brickara. And that over there on the ones and twos. That. Is Matt Rial. You introduce him as that over there. Yeah, come on, brother. But that's purposeful. You say that thing over there. That's extremely purposed. Was that in debrief that you do that? I do. And that thing over there. I'm a bit of a thing, aren't I? We were having a discussion right before this as to Were we? Don't you want to bring it back?

No, I do want to bring it back because I want to... Oh, sure. This is just a quick thing I want people to chime off in the comments. Ryan was referring to Vinnie's, the Peepie Man, his dog. That's right. He was referring to his front paws as arms. His arms. The long arms. Do you consider... Do you at home consider all four legs or are two of those arms and two of those legs?

I would say two. Yeah, his arms. Got long arms. Do you consider, do you at home consider all four legs or are two of those arms and two of those

legs?

I would say two arms and two legs because like they use the front half for arm things.

I guess I have a cat and that could be a similar question.

That's right.

You know, he puts his arms out, I guess.

This is, this was not intentional, but we could not have a better guest to ask about that. We got, yes. Oh, that's true. We can. He's literally the host of a wildlife podcast. Yes, that's true. Okay, great. Okay, here's the setup for today. We're going to be joined by one of the hosts of the tooth and claw podcast, Wes Larson, who is a wildlife expert. This is, squad wadger has been asking for this for months. For West Larson specifically. They have been, and in fact, like, they originally brought up West Larson before when we were talking about the sloth bear. Oh, yeah. And then I reached out to Wes and I was like, hey, can we,

you want to do it?

And he was like, absolutely. And I was like, oh, when we get into the studio? And then obviously that took a long time. Yes. Well, I'm very excited to talk with him. And you said he's the host of the Tooth and Claw podcast. That's right. Fun name. Yeah.

I'm surprised that you,

well,

I'm not really surprised

that you've not listened

to this, Ryan.

It's a podcast where they go over horrific wildlife attacks. That sounds awful. Well, yeah, but at the same time, you really, really love that one episode of this is actually happening. The bear attack, but that's because it's kind of weirdly,

uh,

inspirational. Cause this, uh, for, for those, I'm sure we've referenced it before, but there, there's a, I believe the podcast is called this is actually happening. I think it's called this is actually happening. Which is, you know, I assume some of these stories are pretty harrowing. But it's a podcast based around people telling stories about things that happened to them that, you know, very close to death or very dangerous.

And in the moment, they were like, I cannot believe this is happening to me. And one of the episodes

is a man recounting being attacked by, is it a grizzly? It's a grizzly ver. He gets mauled by a grizzly.

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