Welcome to the show. I'm Jordan Harbinger. On the Jordan Harbinger show we decode the stories, secrets, and skills of the world's most brilliant and interesting people and turn their wisdom into practical advice that you can use

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Today on the show, Jana Mendez, she's a former chief of disguise at the CIA's Office of Technical Service.

I honestly had no idea that we still used disguise.

I guess it makes sense.

Look, apparently it's even more popular than ever.

So we wanted to have her on the show. For those of us

that have seen James Bond, she was basically Q, but for the CIA. But Jana wasn't just

in the lab. She was also in the field working with operatives and she was stationed in Moscow during

the height of the Cold War in the 70s and 80s. She's one of the pioneers or innovators of espionage

disguise, including concepts like disguise on the run, which is more or less what it sounds like

changing while walking using special clothes and devices in just a few seconds

not just like taking off a jacket but turning into somebody completely different

within seconds walking through a building for example. The concept of

identity transfer turning one person into another or cloning people so to speak.

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