Welcome to the podcast, Sudguru, of Mystics and Mistakes.

Sudguru, so much of your work has been about helping people blossom to their fullest potential,

to live a full-fledged life.

I remember visiting your amazing Isha school, which reflects many of these values that Sir Ken has described.

And I wonder if you could tell us in your view what makes for a perfect school

and how does Isha or any of your schools address the natural longing in a human being to know?

I'm glad that there is no perfect school anywhere,

because this aspiration for perfection is very debt-oriented.

It's something that most people have missed.

The nature of life is never perfect. Only debt is perfect.

Never has debt-happening imperfectly. Never has life happened perfectly.

If school is about life, then there is no perfect school.

Having said that, as someone said, not him, somebody from England.

No, I'm seeing him as a representation of England.

Someone said that education is a necessary evil.

It is a necessary evil, because there is a resident evil in the world.

We have very convoluted aspirations, in the sense,

largely, most part of the education is trying to manufacture cogs for the larger machine that we have built.

Our children are the fuel, unfortunately.

We have to put them into some slot where they'll function well.

And when we say the world, world is no more about people.

The world is about the economic engine that we are driving. It's become bigger than us.

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