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Mormon Stories Podcast

1027: The Excommunication of Mormon Bishop and Podcaster Bill Reel Pt. 3

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2018

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

On December 2, 2018, Mormon Bishop and podcaster Bill Reel was excommunicated from the Mormon church for apostasy. In this Mormon Stories Podcast episode we speak with Bill about the disciplinary council. We will play the recording of his disciplinary council defense, and allow Bill to offer a play-by-play commentary. We will conclude by discussing Bill's reactions to the verdict, and talk about what comes next for Bill and Mormon Discussions.

Hat tip to Miles Germer for editing the disciplinary council audio.

Transcript

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for your support.

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Let's continue.

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But the world has changed in the last generation. What's changed? It's the information age.

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It's the internet. With access to information on the internet, Steven Snow says we can't continue that pattern.

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I think we need to continue to be more open. In other words, there are still things they're not telling you.

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Yes, our leaders are dishonest. But you can't call them out as dishonest.

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The thing with Elder Holland, I did a podcast episode titled Liar Liar Pants on Fire.

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It's cute. It is harsh. But I show five times using Elder Holland's own audio, juxtapose against the actual data

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that shows that he is in fact lying. So you can again say my tone isn't okay.

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You can say I'm being too harsh. But the reality is he did lie on five occasions.

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The guy has a problem with honesty. And this is a guy who I considered a friend who reached out to me.

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The attached letter was received in my office a little over a week ago.

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Title, this is Tomorrowland, K. J.S. of Notre-Jaffrey, our Holland. While I was an assignment in Africa,

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would you be good enough to handle as you feel appropriate this letter from Bishop William J.Riel,

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who is currently serving as a Bishop of the Sadasquio High Award?

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