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Modern Wisdom

#1024 - Jon Bellion - The Art of an Authentic Comeback

Modern Wisdom

Chris Williamson

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.74.6K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 166 minutes

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Summary

Jon Bellion is a singer-songwriter, producer, and artist. Fame has a gravity of its own, and once you’re in the spotlight, leaving it isn’t easy. Yet Jon Bellion found more truth in stepping behind the scenes to focus on creating. Now, as a new father and a renewed artist, what gives his life meaning, and what message does he want to share with the world Expect to learn why Jon Bellion is not touring when he has a new album out, why Jon Bellion stepped back from social media and why he has a fake Instagram account, if Jon prefers producing for other people or performing more, how becoming a father has changed Jon and what it means to be a good father figure for young children, what the current direction of pop-music is right now, what Jon would tell his younger self back in college about the future of his career and much more… Sponsors: See discounts for all the products I use and recommend: https://chriswillx.com/deals Get $100 off the best bloodwork analysis in America at https://functionhealth.com/modernwisdom Get a Free Sample Pack of LMNT’s most popular flavours with your first purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/modernwisdom Get 35% off your first subscription on the best supplements from Momentous at https://livemomentous.com/modernwisdom Get a free bottle of D3K2, an AG1 Welcome Kit, and more when you first subscribe at https://ag1.info/modernwisdom Extra Stuff: Get my free reading list of 100 books to read before you die: https://chriswillx.com/books Try my productivity energy drink Neutonic: https://neutonic.com/modernwisdom Episodes You Might Enjoy: #577 - David Goggins - This Is How To Master Your Life: https://tinyurl.com/43hv6y59 #712 - Dr Jordan Peterson - How To Destroy Your Negative Beliefs: https://tinyurl.com/2rtz7avf #700 - Dr Andrew Huberman - The Secret Tools To Hack Your Brain: https://tinyurl.com/3ccn5vkp - Get In Touch: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswillx Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/chriswillx YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/modernwisdompodcast Email: https://chriswillx.com/contact - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

new album, but you're not touring right now.

0:02.9

No.

0:03.4

Why?

0:04.8

Right into it.

0:07.6

The touring thing is, it's been a bit of a, I toured for a really long time before I walked

0:12.3

away from artistry for about six or seven years.

0:16.6

I've given this spiel a couple of times, but it's just like kind of figured out how the

0:20.1

ends and outs worked of it,

0:21.1

understood what the toll on my life was, as opposed to what I was getting paid for, what I was bringing in, and the business just didn't make sense of it. So I've walked away from that a long time ago, and then was able to, this time around, just kind of like really do inventory on what's important to me and what I want to do. And we were able to do a four-sill stadium.

0:38.6

Just two nights back-to-back, sold out in a couple hours.

0:41.7

And because the deal was right and I understand the business more,

0:45.5

I can just drive home in my minivan and collect my money

0:49.3

and be paid more than I've ever done for touring combined in two nights.

0:53.4

Two nights made you more than entire tours previously. Yeah, yeah. It's because I don't regret any of it, but it just definitely put it in perspective, oh, this is how they're killing you, this is how they're getting you on the backside. So yeah, yeah, so we ended up doing just two nights. 26,000 people showed up. It was crazy. Crazy. After six or seven years

1:12.1

of being away, it was like moving, super emotional. After such a long hiatus, were you surprised by

1:19.1

the positive response to the album and the Forest Hills shows? Yeah, I think you build up,

1:24.0

like, it's like Dre with detox or like you build up this thing and then the expectation becomes so high that you'll never be able to whatever. So I think I was fortunate enough to just like disappear and go away and write for other people for a super long time. And I think that the pressure was off because I think the fans after a while were just like, I actually just don't think he'll ever put out music again. So then when I was like, I'm putting out music, they didn't have time for there to be this

1:46.1

unrealistic expectation of like stepbrothers too.

1:50.1

Like they didn't have to be dumb and dumbers too.

1:52.2

Like it just was.

1:54.1

And on top of that, I just like became a completely different person in seven years.

1:57.4

Like you're tapping in with the sound was different.

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