1024: Into Thin Air, Pattie Gonia, & Mel Robbins' Idea
The Brain Candy Podcast
Susie Meister PhD & Sarah Rice AMFT
4.7 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 6 July 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
We're belatedly celebrating America's birthday, and reminiscing about the bicentennial furniture craze of 1976. Susie read the book Into Thin Air about the 1996 Everest tragedy where many climbers perished, and the unintended consequences of the book. We discuss the Mel Robbins' book, Let Them, and the allegations that the idea was "stolen" from a viral poem, and we find out why certain things are not covered by copyright rules and intellectual property limits. We talk about the lawsuit between Patagonia and a drag queen named, Pattie Gonia, where the company is having to protect their trademark, but is inspiring ire from the TikTok community who are defending their queen. We hear why Japanese women are calling for the men in their country to be as committed to contributing to the domestic labor as they are at soccer stadiums where they've gotten a lot of attention for cleaning up after games. We giggle about dads who don't know the details about their children's lives. And we learn some fun facts about album titles.
00:00 - America's Bicentennial and Furniture Style Trends
03:11 - Our New Family Member: Luna Louise Adoption Story
08:17 - Jon Krakauer's Everest: Egoism and Altitude Sickness
29:30 - Mel Robbins' "Let Them": Idea Theft and Copyright
42:59 - Trademark Battle: Patagonia Company vs. Drag Queen
53:03 - World Cup Clean-Up vs. Japanese Domestic Labor
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| 0:00.0 | Hello. |
| 0:05.6 | That's the 24. |
| 0:09.0 | Oh. |
| 0:09.9 | What? |
| 0:10.4 | We just passed the semi- quintennial. |
| 0:14.1 | Oh. |
| 0:14.9 | Of America. |
| 0:16.1 | 250 years. |
| 0:17.7 | 250 years young. |
| 0:19.7 | You don't look a day over 100, America. |
| 0:23.5 | Do you know any bicentennial babies? |
| 0:25.8 | Because they never shut up about it. |
| 0:28.2 | They turned 50 this year. |
| 0:30.8 | Oh, like people who were born on the, no, I don't know any. |
| 0:34.6 | All you 1976ers, we get it. |
| 0:37.3 | Oh, yeah. Yeah, I have heard of this the night yeah yeah |
| 0:41.2 | I don't think it's them so much as their parents made a big deal about it because they had the babies |
| 0:47.8 | that were right yeah yeah because Greta was a bicentennial baby and then all the bicentennial babies |
| 0:53.3 | in the family would take pictures together every year. |
| 0:55.7 | It's like, okay, fucking, no cares. |
| 0:57.8 | That's very America. |
| 0:59.4 | Like, my family didn't care that much about the history of America to take photos with bicentennial babies. |
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