1023: Secret Podcast: Success in a Failing Country
The Next Level
The Bulwark
4.8 • 3.2K Ratings
🗓️ 11 October 2025
⏱️ 19 minutes
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Hope you enjoy listening as much as they enjoyed visiting with each other.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:04.4 | This is JVL here with my best friend, Sarah Longwell, publisher of the bulwark. |
| 0:08.7 | It's not Friday. |
| 0:10.3 | We just did a show last night. |
| 0:12.0 | We're together as the same- |
| 0:13.0 | Just wouldn't look like this. |
| 0:14.3 | Like grim death. |
| 0:16.4 | We're in the same space. |
| 0:17.6 | And we were not going to do a show for the week. But I asked Sarah to do something |
| 0:24.6 | because I thought we have not done a just hangout show in a few years at this point where we just |
| 0:31.8 | talk about stuff that doesn't have to do with the news and politics. And I thought it would be |
| 0:36.1 | nice to do that. I like this idea. In part, I do think this came to you because we did, you know, before the |
| 0:42.3 | show, we did sort of a little Q&A with a group of people. And they asked us not really political |
| 0:48.8 | questions. I mean, some of them were political, but a lot of them were just about, you know, how things like what are funny things |
| 0:56.4 | that happened behind the scenes, about our relationships with each other, things about how the |
| 1:00.7 | bulwark works, that I do think increased our appetite for maybe just talking about some of |
| 1:06.5 | these things. It was interesting how curious they were about things that we don't always think about |
| 1:11.1 | talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Should I keep my hat on for the whole entirety of this? |
| 1:15.6 | I mean, I think you're sure. Is it distracting you? It's not, doesn't distract me. I do think |
| 1:19.0 | it clashes with that what is now because you have gotten so skinny that like terribly |
| 1:24.3 | oversized vest. And so it's very red and very blue. I was, I was given this hat. It looks great. And I want to wrap it. I'll take it off. No, don't take it off. Just really? Okay. All right, I'll leave it on. Maybe it'll look good in the two shots. All right. So we're just going to take turns asking each other some questions. And the first question I had for you was, |
| 1:51.9 | knowing everything that you know now, if you had it to do all over again, we jump back, you've just walked and gotten your diploma at Canyon. What would you do differently? |
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