Four, three, two, one.

I'm gonna do what you're doing.

I'm gonna do what you're doing over there, man? What is this?

Well actually, I was thinking about making sure that I'm in a position mentally and

spiritually to talk openly and clearly and connect.

But you're doing it with fists, which I found interesting.

It's like you're going to be, you're going to talk openly, but you're going to be strong about it.

It's not like this, there's this thing that, the meditation thing, where you're just gently touching your

fingers together. Yeah right I suppose then I'm looking to be embodied as well.

You're intense. Or like present. You're like a hybrid. Yeah, that's right. That's what we've got to become these days. Yeah, a little bit of both. A little bit of spiritual, a little bit of warrior. The whole thing. We've got to survive in this world. Yeah know, yeah. So you can't be all ethereal, it can't be all, it can't all be in the

consciousness. Yeah, otherwise you'll never get anything done. Right? You'll just be constantly dealing with other people's wants and wishes, you know?

Unless you're going to make the decision to be one of those cave people because like something I think about that like

this put on robes meditate only that only live in the consciousness but given my

extreme levels of attachment I've experienced over the years to physical things. I don't think that's my path.

You know, I'm here, I'm in the world, I'm selling books, I'm having a baby, I'm caring about

what people think about me, I'm wondering if I'm going to be in a film I'm dealing with

the world being a man in the world being the type of man I am it's not like I know

I'll just life myself off in a cave well there's a certain amount of attraction that I think we all have to this idea like,

hey man, I'm just going to get away from it all.

But the problem is you, it's going on whether you like it or not, it's happening.

Like even if you're not there, it's going on.

So you should probably be there just to go,

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