Welcome to the rest of this politics with me, Rory Stewart, and me, Alistair Campbell.

And Alistair, we've both got a cold, but you're under strong instructions, we're not

allowed to mention that because you say undermines the reputation of anyone if they're

found to have a cold.

You have some story from Tony Blair, is that right?

Well, I gave you instructions, don't, you know, show, don't tell, and just get through

it without mentioning you had a cold, and for heaven's sake, don't let people hear the

cold in your voice because it's so irritating for the listener.

What was the Tony Blair story?

You once told him that.

I remember once he had a really bad cold, and he was doing all these interviews, and he

said, why am I having to do these interviews when I got such a bad cold, and I said,

you're doing the interviews because we booked them before you got a cold, and you've got

to get through them without telling people that you've got a cold, and nobody's going

to care that you've got a cold.

I should say, by the way, Rory, a few days ago, I had much more than a cold, I had hypothermia

in Lake Geneva, so there you go.

And this was you doing your normal mad swimming in the snow, and this time it actually went

wrong.

Well, it was, it was, Fiona and I went for a, I usual swim.

We found Lake Geneva, which was absolutely beautiful.

It was two degrees in the water, which is fine, but it was minus five outside, and I just

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