This is sent work, but it's really fluency and behavior, you know, getting the dog very

operant responding to that cue and really understanding, you know, and that all is us having

criteria and us having good timing, us rewarding correctly, and also looking at the other

factors that might potential be cues.

Hey guys. Welcome to drinking from the toilet, the podcast for serious training nerds.

If you're looking to combine the science of behavior with positive reinforcement philosophy in real life,

you've come to the right place.

I'm Hannah Branigan, teacher, trainer, podcaster, foolish human, and author of the book,

Awesome Obedience, which you can pick up right now from clickertraining.com.

Today we are hanging out with my friend, colleague, and training buddy, Lucy Newton.

Lucy and I have worked together on a couple of different projects, dog and dog training related,

and we train together in a couple of different sports, mainly obedience, of course,

and she's also the one who's lately been pushing me back into playing

with Shizunipo training stuff. But we'll talk more about that later. So don't get too excited.

Most importantly, Lucy is my primary go-to resource for all things scent-related.

Tracking, scent detection, nosework, anything where my dog needs to be smelling stuff with some

kind of specific outcome in mind.

She's the one that I go to. And of course, I tend to come at these training problems, puzzles,

from a clicker training perspective and probably a healthy dose of Dun & Grueger effect.

And Lucy comes to our training sessions with decades of practical working dog experience.

So I respect that. And whatever

she says, I'm going to listen to it. She's also an, let me see if I get this right,

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